{"id":4810,"date":"2018-05-18T10:35:26","date_gmt":"2018-05-18T14:35:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/splice.com\/blog\/?p=4810"},"modified":"2025-03-20T13:48:03","modified_gmt":"2025-03-20T17:48:03","slug":"how-to-make-808-punchy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/splice.com\/blog\/how-to-make-808-punchy\/","title":{"rendered":"How to make 808s punchy"},"content":{"rendered":"<h6 style=\"text-align: center;\">Illustration: <a href=\"http:\/\/danielzender.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Daniel Zender <\/a><\/h6>\n<h1>Have you ever found yourself working on a track that needs hard-hitting and punchy 808s, but just seems to fall short?<\/h1>\n<p>Getting 808s to cut through the mix may actually be easier than you think\u2014here are a few tips on how to do it.<\/p>\n<h2>Understanding the ADSR of an 808<\/h2>\n<p><strong>ADSR<\/strong> (Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release) is an important concept to understand when working with 808s. Specifically, we&#8217;ll be focusing on the <strong>attack<\/strong> and the <strong>release<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The attack is how quickly or abruptly the sound starts. A fast attack means the note starts quickly once it&#8217;s hit, while a slow attack means that it fades in and there&#8217;s not much punch to the start of the sound. On the other hand, the release is how quickly or slowly the sound fades out after the initial attack. A fast enough release will turn an 808 bass into a drum-like kick sound. You\u2019ll want a pretty slow release in order to let it fade out and sound beefy in the low end.<\/p>\n<p>So why is it important to understand this for 808s?<\/p>\n<p>If your 808s aren\u2019t cutting through the mix, this is the first place to check. Try making the attack faster\u2014this should make it cut through the mix more. If that doesn\u2019t work (or if it\u2019s already at an attack of 0 or the fastest it&#8217;ll go), try making the release faster. This means it should fade out faster. While this may seem counter-intuitive to making big 808 sounds, think of it this way: by adding in more dynamics to the 808s, you\u2019ll be able to turn up the entire track. This will make the transients of the 808 punch through more while keeping the rest of it at a good level.<\/p>\n<h2>Adjusting your levels<\/h2>\n<p>If you\u2019re confident that the ADSR is perfect and it\u2019s still not cutting through the mix, try adjusting your levels. Bring other elements of the mix down in volume to allow the 808s more space to be heard.<\/p>\n<p>Be careful not to lose sight of the focus in the mix. Sometimes it\u2019s easy to let the 808s take over and throw the mix out of whack. <a href=\"https:\/\/splice.com\/blog\/how-and-why-you-should-use-a-reference-track-during-mixing\/?utm_source=article&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_term=how-to-make-808-punchy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Listen to some reference tracks<\/a> that you like in order to make sure the levels are good for the low end.<\/p>\n<h2>Layering kicks<\/h2>\n<p>If playing with the ADSR or levels of the 808s doesn&#8217;t do the trick, it\u2019s time to try some layering options.<\/p>\n<p>The first layer to try if you want more attack is to add a kick sample to the start of your 808 hits. Depending on the sound you\u2019re after, you may want to try an 808 or 909-style kick drum. Or, you may be better off with an acoustic sounding kick drum with a lot of snap to it. Find a kick sound that you think blends well with the 808 you\u2019re using, as well as with the rest of the track.<\/p>\n<p>Remember, when layering sounds, you don\u2019t necessarily want to be able to hear it. You want to support the sounds that are already there.<\/p>\n<h2>Layering other basses<\/h2>\n<p>If all else fails, try layering other basses on top of the 808. Using a synth like <a href=\"https:\/\/splice.com\/plugins\/39137242-serum-2-au-by-xfer-records\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Serum<\/a> can be a great way to find bass sounds that blend well with 808s and add just the right amount of punch.<\/p>\n<p>As I mentioned when discussing levels, make sure to step back and listen to the entire mix to make sure you\u2019re not drowning out other elements with the bass. Whenever you blend two big bass sounds together, it can get out of hand balance-wise if you\u2019re not careful to step back and hear the mix as a whole.<\/p>\n<p>What do you like to do when you need your 808s to cut through the mix? Any tips or tricks that you&#8217;ve found work well? 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